The Legend of Zelda Thread.

[HellsGuard]

Nono, you didn't offend me, i'm sorry for spouting out things without checking xP I didn't think there was anyone before 64 =P

[Bos]

Don't be sorry. XDD You shouldn't have to research things before you post in something like this, and no one should expect you to unless it were debating something or something. ^^;

[Rocket]

The Legend Of Zelda storyline

^Check out this link.
It's the most comprehensive and plausible sounding theory on the storyline that I can find.

[Bos]

Pretty convincing, kind of, but isn't it confirmed that Link's Awakening's Link is the same as the one from A Link to the Past? I remember reading that in the instruction manual of LA, not the DX version... :/

LttP -> LA

I'm about 95% certain on that... But I'll try to look for the manual again. I could be wrong. And I'm referring to what it said in the original LA's booklet, not the LA:DX version. I haven't played that one, though it's the same, right? XDD

And the Link in the Oracle Series is the exact same one. He goes on two different quests, one after the other. Originally, there were supposed to be three of them, but one was cancelled do to the issues there would be of connecting three games together rather than the two, and the Oracle of Secrets was turned into basically a minor character. If you play the games together, then it even is the same Link, and the character's mention of your heroic deeds and whatnot that Link had accomplished in the other land. (Holodrum or Labrynna, depending on which you play first...)

Go ahead and shoot me if you see something wrong with what I'm saying here. XDD;

[Rocket]

*Pulls out gun*

Link from "Link's Awakening" may be the same as Link from ALTTP, but even if he is, it doesn't matter. Link's Awakening was a dream. Did you play the game?

And the Link in the Oracle Series is the exact same one. He goes on two different quests, one after the other. Originally, there were supposed to be three of them, but one was cancelled do to the issues there would be of connecting three games together rather than the two, and the Oracle of Secrets was turned into basically a minor character. If you play the games together, then it even is the same Link, and the character's mention of your heroic deeds and whatnot that Link had accomplished in the other land. (Holodrum or Labrynna, depending on which you play first...)

The funny thing is, you're right. What's also funny, is that it was mentioned in the video that they are the same Link. :] It's just different paths he took to get where he was going. The third installment was finished on the same day the two Oracle games were. At that time, they all had different titles, and were part of a LoZ "seeds" tri-story.

Referred to as the "Triforce Series", the games were known as The Legend of Zelda: The Mysterious Acorn: Chapter of Power, Chapter of Wisdom, and Chapter of Courage in Japan and The Legend of Zelda: Mystical Seed of Power, Mystical Seed of Wisdom, and Mystical Seed of Courage in the US.

Oracle of Seasons was adapted from Mystical Seed of Power, Oracle of Ages was adapted from Mystical Seed of Wisdom, and Mystical Seed of Courage was canceled.

Trust me, I'm a fanboy when it comes to LoZ. :]

[Bos]

-inches away-

Yeah, I did play the game, but Link's Awakening still occurs after A Link to the Past. I found the booklet, but the first page of the English Story section is missing, but on the second page of describing the story, it mentions how Link believes Marin is Princess Zelda after he 'wakes up'. Though, the first time he met Zelda was in A Link to the Past... :/

And Link is confirmed NOT to be Zelda's brother in LttP, despite popular believe. There was a poor translation in the SNES version, when Link's uncle says, "Zelda is your..." most people assumed he was about to say sister, though it was intended that Zelda was supposed to be his destiny. Not necessarily 'romantic destiny', but more likely it was his destiny to meet her so he would save Hyrule from certain doom.

However, the French version is still intact;

" Bien que vous ayez accompli la prophétie hyrulienne du légendaire héros et détruit lÃ*ffreux tyran Ganon, le pays d`Hyrule nÃ* joui que dùne paix précaire. "Qui salt quelles menaces peuvant surgir des cendres de Ganon?" se demandait le peuple inquiet tout en fronçant les sourcils et en houchant la tête. ... "

Poorly translates to something about Link fulfulling the Hylian prophecy and defeating Ganon. And something about how the towns people worrying about Ganon's ashes while furrowing their eyebrows with worry. XDD

Which points to LA occuring after LttP. Plus LttP probably isn't the first to occur, because of the whole prophesy of Ganon and whatnot... :/

Another thing that may be important to keep in mind while trying to figure out the timeline in the vernacular. One example being the whole "Hylian / Hyrulean" difference. Perhaps the games which occur after the great flood of Hyrule refer to 'Hyrulean' while before the flood refers to 'Hylian'. After all, it makes a little sence, though I'm not saying it's right.

Like, the 'Triumph Forks'. Over time, the pronounciation changed through many generations from 'Triforce' to 'Triumph Forks'. 'Hylian' could easily have been changed to 'Hyrulean', seeing as the people of the islands in Wind Waker did know something somewhat of Hyrule. It would make more sence to them to say 'Hyrulean' rather than 'Hylian', because why would things be refered to as 'Hylian'? It wouldn't make much sense to them, because, yeah, 'Hyrulean' would make more sense to a person than 'Hylian' would if they hadn't any idea of where the term 'Hylian' came from.

(( I'm not quite sure how to explain it, but I hope you get it. XDD If not, I can try again. ))

And I don't think it's just a mistake that occured in Japanese translation to English. I could be wrong, but wasn't the term 'Hylian' used in Twilight Princess? I could be wrong. I haven't played it since I'd beaten the game so... XDD;;

Which would mean the Oracle / Mysterious Seed Saga would have occured after the flood, if there is any truth to this speculation, because they had used the term 'Hyrulean'. WW isn't the only game to use it... XDD;;;

But it's all just speculation, and nothing more, and pro'lly is all wrong, but it seems to be worth mentioning. There had to be SOME reason to switch from 'Hylian' to 'Hyrulean' throught games... XDD Do you have any ideas for it, or do you deem it as being unimportant?

[Rocket]

Two blow a coulpe of those paragraphs away, Hylian/Hyrulian merge like this:
When talking about living things in Hyrule, Hylian. An example of this is the Hylian Loach from TP. When describing the nonliving factors, such as scenery, the latter.

Another theory I've heard is what you've said, Hyrulian was adapted in the future of Hyrule, after the flooding and such.

[Bos]

But what about the Hylian Sheild, or Lake Hylia? They're probably exceptions, though. There's always at least one exception to a rule... XD

But still, it switches from 'Hylian Prophecy/Legend' to 'Hyrulean Prophecy/Legend'... There has to be a reason it changes, even if it has nothing to do with the flood. XDD

Do you know if The Minish Cap uses the term Hylian or Hyrulean? I haven't played it yet. XDD

AH, I forgot to include the CD-i's in the list... -smacks self-

[Rocket]

I'm pretty sure Minish Cap uses Hylian.

Favorite LOZ games anyone?

[BlackRainbow]

LoZ is probably one of the only game series that I will ever play. Nothing ever tops it. If it weren't for OoT, I probably would have never got into creating my own characters and stories (seriously, my artistic aspirations came from that game).

I've played a little of LttP, OoT, MM, WW, TP, AoL, and my little brother owns PH and MC. I played OoT, MM, and WW the most.

To me, the best games were the two N64 ones. I have a lot of the music from those two games, I loved the storylines of them (even though TP was really good too), and I was simply really inspired by them. I'm hoping to get the games on my Wii from the Shop Channel so that I can relive those games again.

I think the reason I don't play TP much is because I hate using the Wiimote. If there is another LoZ game in 2009, I hope it's for Wii, but doesn't use that remote (or at least gives an option). I'm kinda retro, I like using the 64/Gamecube controllers.

As for that Hylian/Hyrulean thing. I'm pretty sure Hylian was the term used to refer to the certain type of people that Link is. After all, there are many races and not all of them are called Hylian. We call the rock people (I'm using OoT reference) Gorons, the child people Kokori, the desert people Gerudo, the water people Zora, so on and so forth. But if the name got changed, then I suppose I have no explanation for that. Much of my knowledge comes from the games that occur before the flood, if that is the reason.