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[moonlight_sonata]

Not a Twilight fan either...I personally never saw what made them so appealing and so 'different ffrom any other vampire book', and then yeah, Breaking Dawn totally killed it. (I mean, the fight with the Volturi? They stood 50 yards away from each other and exchanged insults!!!Seriously, Meyer!) But the host was pretty good...though I think Jared was a dick.

I love that idea!! I'll start writing a plot summary and share it with you tomorrow. Maybe I'll even find a cool twist that makes it forbidden, like you said.

[Trinyte]

Love the poem!

Never been much of a poem person, but I like what you've done with it. All the ideas totally fit with the themes and I like the child-like simplicity of it all. Reminds us that Allen is actually still a kid, which I thought was a nice psych twist.

I have (proudly) boycotted any and everything to do with Twilight. *puts up defenses as fan-girls throw objects* The story line looks boring and I'm not all that huge a fan of first person novels. Sure they're interesting form the point that you get an in depth view of the character's thoughts and feelings, but if you're writing form the perspective of a shallow and stupid character then you don't have many interesting things to write about now do you? Oh well. I have ignored and evaded it. I'm not a fan of the series at all, so shoot me.

[moonlight_sonata]

Yay! Anti-Twilight rox!!!! XDXD

wow...I seem to be in the habit of getting these froums totally off subject...check out the Ch.182 discussion thread XD

[HeavenlyFantasy]

Agreed, Trinyte. It's like every other paragraph is about how ridiculously beautiful Edward is. I think first-person narrative can be pulled off though. I'm reading and enjoying the Women of the Otherworld series by Kelley Armstrong, and the books are written in first person. What makes it interesting is that her characters actually have personalities.

moonlight_sonata, thanks. I've been trying to come up with more ideas, with no luck so far. I'm thinking of what the finder girl could be like, all I know is that she hides her feelings at first, and even tries to convince herself that she's not in love with him. That's definitely going to be one of the themes, seeing as it's a Lavi fanfic - hiding feelings, putting up facades. This is the character who said "I soon came to the point where I didn't know whether my smiling face was a lie or not". And who tries to be aloof but is caring and loyal deep down. See what I mean?

[moonlight_sonata]

I agree. If the person has a good personality, first persons can be awesome (Maximum ride and Pendragon, for example.)
Something I hate about vampire books: you figure out whos the vampire IMMEDIATLY because of their 'dark and mysterious personality', 'smoldering eyes', and 'white as marble skin'. I'd like to read a book with a rude, perverted ugly vampire as the main charactar.

Unfortunately, I too havent really gotten anything on our story (I've been really busy) But I'll work on it over spring break, and im sorry but I'll be away from a computer for about a week so I'll get back to you asap.

[Trinyte]

I think first-person narrative can be pulled off though. I'm reading and enjoying the Women of the Otherworld series by Kelley Armstrong, and the books are written in first person. What makes it interesting is that her characters actually have personalities.

That's exactly it. You need good strong characters with complexity to pull off a first-person narrative. If you don't have that, then you're basically screwed.
That being said I rarely, if ever write in first person. Mainly because I like leaving it up to the reader as to what the thoughts are behind the characters' actions. It leaves things more open to interpretation which i think is essential in writing a good piece. I mean sure you need to get the general message across, but you have to do it in a way that caters to as many audience types as possible, so that it can be received and enjoyed by more people. That's my take on it anyway. I also like seeing things from different perspectives, and third person narration gives you a bit more lee way into being able to do that within the one story without doing one of those annoying "attempts to be revolutionary and original" and write in first person from a few different perspectives. That ticks me off, and it's why I didn't enjoy "My Sister's Keeper" by Jodi Picoult (again, so shoot me. Yes, good novel- not disputing that, but her writing style just isn't for me). If you're going to try to see the views of multiple characters, do it in a less abrasive way. It just chopped and changed like there was no tomorrow... It got annoying because you just couldn't connect to any of the characters, and in a story with that kind of emotional climax of events you NEED a connection to the characters, otherwise you get bored like me and just predict the end of the story half way through the book. Gah... Anyway, that's my rant.

[HeavenlyFantasy]

Something I hate about vampire books: you figure out whos the vampire IMMEDIATLY because of their 'dark and mysterious personality', 'smoldering eyes', and 'white as marble skin'. I'd like to read a book with a rude, perverted ugly vampire as the main charactar.

Same here. Why is there practically nothing about ugly vampires, or at least average-looking ones? In most books they have all kinds of supernatural advantages and can catch their prey easily, so they don't exactly need to be attractive do they? Especially to the point where their looks draw attention to them? It would make more sense if they just looked like ordinary people. And the whole "dark and mysterious" thing has been way overdone. I'll admit to liking Anne Rice's books though. They're something of a guilty pleasure.

And yes, Trynite, multiple-perspective first person can get a bit choppy. Sometimes it can be good, but it has to be spread out a little. Like the Women of the Otherworld series (yes, referring to that again). The first two books are written from the point of view of one character, the next two are from the perspective of another, the next has somebody else narrating, and the next has the character from the first two books again... To me, that works. It's interesting to read about them from one person's point of view, and then from theirs. And their thoughts are an important part of each story. Take Dime Store Magic for example. The main character, Paige, is particularly optimistic and idealistic. Throughout the story, things go from bad to worse, to the point where she thinks that nothing else can go wrong and of course it does. If there hadn't been anything about how she expected things to turn out, how disappointed she was when they went wrong, and how she resolved to cope with them, sure the actions would have been the same, but it would have taken a lot away from the book.

As for the story, moonlight_sonata, I'll work on it too, so we can both share our ideas. Have fun during spring break.

[Remorse]

I love how your poem represents the mixture of Noah and Innocence which represents Allen. Want to make a collab sometime? We could make a narrative poem. It'd be new for me. I'm usually writing lyric poems with ryhme and rhythm. I'm usually expressing the feelings rather than explaining a situation.

[moonlight_sonata]

To Remorse: Sure, I'd love 2. What did you have in mind?

To HeavenlyFantasy: Ok, I have an idea. Tell me if its total crap or not.
So, shes gonna meet Lavi (blah blah blah....) Theyre gonna fall in love with each other but theyll keep it a secret from each other (blah blah blah...) Eventually theyll find out that theyre in love with each other and well...you know.(Blah blah blah) But they still need to keep it a secret right? So heres where things get screwed up.
Marissa (thats the girls name. I like it. You can change anything else, but not that) gets pregnant.
Ooops.
So, before it becomes noticible, she decides to fake death on her next Finder mission and run away so Lavi doesn't get...I dont know, in trouble, or kicked out of the Bookman's....association...whatever....ANYWAY!
So she does that, and a few months later, Lavi and Kanda are on a mission, and then when they get hurt, Lavi ends up sharing a hospital room with Marissa, who is about to have her baby. However, after she gives birth, it turns out that she lost too much blood and shes not going to make it, and she asks Lavi to take care of him before she dies. He agrees, and although Kanda disagrees (I'v got a great scene written for this, but its really hard to simplify: basically, Kanda and Lavi have this heart to heart and its kind of sad) they finally end up taking the baby back to the Order. And...I dont really know what happens after that. I kind of just made it up this morning. (Ooops.)
Tell me what you think! I wrote a few other scenes, so just give me your email and Ill send them to you.

[HeavenlyFantasy]

Gah! Sorry for the late reply. I haven't been online much at all.

moonlight_sonata, I love that idea. Much better than anything I'd have thought of. And yes, I like the name Marissa too. I'll PM you my e-mail. Do you have MSN? It will be much easier for us to share our ideas.