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    Default Allen's Death, the 14th and Dreams, and Lavi's Eye

    Well here are a couple of my theories. I'd like to hear what you think of them.

    1. Allen's death
    Since Allen is both an innocence user and a Noah, he is symbolic of the war (Noah vs. innocence within himself) and the two sided coin that is innocence and Noah. A coin cannot exist if one of it's sides disappears, so when Allen kills the Noah ***(not the humans who host them, the actual Noah- if he killed the humans nothing would stop)***, he will also destroy the innocence. When this happens, Allen will die because the innocence will no longer patch the hole that the tease ate in his heart.

    2. Noah of Dreams and the 14th
    I will refer to them as the Noah of Dreams and the 14th to avoid confusion with Allen and Road.
    So it may be possible that that the 14th and Dreams had a thing. Why? It would explain why Dreams can move the Ark. I'm also suggesting that Road is Dreams reincarnated because the Earl was probably irate that Dreams was with the 14th because A. they're "brothers and sisters" or B. he knew the 14th was a traitor at this point and just found out about the affair (it's a timing thing). This explains why Dreams is always all over Allen when she sees him. It may also explain why Road speaks of him affectionately. A. Road has a bit of a crush on Allen herself or B. her Noah affects her subconscious and recognizes the 14th in Allen.

    3. Lavi's covered eye
    Lavi's eye is probably linked to his memory - he can remember everything he sees with that eye. He most likely covers it because of the blood and gore that he witnesses in the war. He doesn't want to remember it, and in the Noah Dream's dream, she could have played off of his fear of seeing all that death without his eye covered. The eye is the reason he became a Bookman, but has nothing to do with Bookmen. It was basically something that Bookman saw in Lavi that would useful to the Bookmen.

    I'm not sure why his eye has that ability, but he could perhaps have two innocence. His eye could be the heart. It has never been stated that one person could not host two innocence. (Cross does not count as a user of two innocence though because he simply controlled a corpse that was compatible. He was never truly synchronized with two innocence.) Anyway, Lavi may not know his eye is innocence because he keeps it covered all the time and he already has his hammer.
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    Very interesting theories to say the least. The first one might have some substance from my standpoint actually, and I can see where it could be carried along as an underplot. I mean, Allen litterally is two hales to the same coin, which is why he is our hero. The best standpoint to take on this theory, in my POV, is that of the Star Wars jedi/sith thing. Now, Anakin was indeed the prophecy and he indeed did balance the force by destroying the sith. With the Jedi! Because of the chaos theory. You must have good in an equal proportion to bad in order for any of it to exist, or it will fall to total chaos and imbalance. Thats generally when these types of things come to a head. Too much of one side, and in order to restore peace, both had to be either eradicated, or evened out.

    Allen will die, I believe, in order to end the series and decide the battle. The question is, which side is he honestly going to be on in the end? In order for either side to win, both sides have to be eradicated. Thats my honest standpoint. But on the same token, God hold's the power of the Innocence, and we all know whose the head on the other pimple. So in truth, the battle can't end, and therefore Allen won't die for the greater good.

    I think we need to sit back and see where the next few chapters take us to see truely whether this theory is going to play out or not.

    As for Rhode and the 14th...Hmm. Well, somehow I doubt that they were having an affair. Nothing bad to you , that a good motivation for that kind of hatred. However, The Noah of Dreams was actually one of the original controllers of the Arc, and is the first child. Thats why Rhode is so important. I don't believe she has been reincarnated once because of her special powers. Remember, we don't even know what Rhode even really looks like because of the nature of her powers. I believe this has been mentioned in the manga. Rhode is super affectionate toward everyone, if you pay attention, including her adoptive father/brother Noah. Shes all over Tiki, all over the Earl. We could fit in a nasty word here, but instead I would rather not view Rhode in this matter. I'm rather fond of her xD. Yes, she has a crush on Allen, but I do not believe that its connected directly to the fact that hes the 14th. This started back before I believe the Noah even had an inkling that Allen was in any way related to the 14th. o.O There are some fishy holes here, I wonder if she is aware of them :O

    Anyway, the Earl hates the 14th for a very similar motivation. Betrayal. The 14th decided to flippy sides, and head toward the side of greater good, or greater evil, depending on which side you truely believe is working for god. Remember the bible when considering this, but then again, this is an entirly different arguement.
    Anyway, The 14th left the Noah family, and then perpetrated the ultimate sin against them. Gave the rights and abilities to control the Ark, their sacred Ark! to a human. I think it goes without saying that the Earl and the 14th we're very close brothers, and thats enough to make your brother wanna lop your head off. Or atleast that's how its been construed to me. Betrayal is a very, very powerful motivational tool, and its a very common trigger for crimes of passion. This would also explain why the Earl is now so eager to get the 14th back. He loved him very dearly, and he could A.) want to bring him back home and make amends. B.) Want him to come back so he can punish him dearly for the sins of his predesessor. So I believe you were right on the motivational front, just I don't buy the affair story. But hey! You never know! HA!

    As for Lavi's eye, I believe that was answered early on in the series in one of those little between chapter interviews. It was stated that Lavi had actually been designed for another series, and was known as Mut (I believe that was the name, its been SO many years!). Could be wrong on the name >.> So the patch over his eye is actually just a character carry over. Gotta love cross overs.

    On the front of double sync with two innocences at once...Well. The only way this can be done is the way in which Cross did it. Controlling a second body that has already been synced with another innocence. Because remember, the innocence is a vicious, and it has been known to kill MANY times. Look bad to the innocence testing, and the poor children who were ripped apart and damned to hell because they were forced to try and sync with an innocence that did not accept them. I believe something similar, if not more grotesque and disturbing would happen is a user attempted to sync with more then one innocence at a time. But I'm sure we will eventually hear about it, considering the way the BRO likes to experiment on small children.

    Good theories! That felt good!

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    About Allen... he truly is like the balance of good and evil... he might have to destroy both sides to create a balance in the world... and also he will almost most likely die in the end :'( as sad as that is... but i can't see an Allen that exist after the Noah and the Akuma are gone... it is basically become his whole existence...

    And the Dreamer/the 14th sound very cute... but Allen and Road with what we recently learned about Road... if u don't know and wanna know read the spoiler
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    Road is older than she looks... she's like 50 something... so it has become more of a squik than a <3


    And Lavi's eye is most likely covered not because he doesn't want to remember blood and war but most likely there would be to much strain if he always uses it... but I guess we would be enlightened about that another time...
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    Interesting... I'm so worried about Allen being the 14th. I do not think he will die, though. I think he might even expel the Noah from himself. He wouldn't die from it because, like has been said before by the Order, Akuma are made from Dark matter, which is also where the Noah's power come from. Therefore, he'll probably survive, if the 14th doesn't take over. So, anyway, since innocence is made of light matter, it's also possible that the 14th could entirely take over and even destroy Allen's innocence. I think this is possible, too. But, his innocence might override the 14th's power. Right now, I'm surprised her could get out of Road's reenactment of Kanda's memories. So, in conclusion, there are many possiblities.

    Oh, and I think the reason Road might like him, besides the whole 14th thing, is because he's always been the tough, fighting one. Allen even totally survived his encounter with her, except his left eye and injuries from fighting the Akuma. Besides his left eye, nothing from Road herself, though.

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    I don't believe that Allen will expell the Noah, because it was a gift from the only person that had ever shown him love, Mana. When you love someone, you accept the good and bad in the name of love.

    Plus, I think everyone is missing the fact here that the 14th is a defunct Noah that abandoned the family in the name of the Exorcist's God. Whose to say that Allen would ever defunct the BRO if he did change and accept the 14th's memories as his own? I think it might actually be a helping hand to the BRO, but hey! You never know!

    I don't believe Allen will die either, because I doubt this war will be over long after the series ends. Its nearly impossible to imagine it doing so, especially considering how long its been going on. Now, not to say that I don't believe that this group of exorcists won't destroy this incarnation of the Noah family. But it won't end here, and balance will be nowhere close to being restored. Atleast thats my opinion. This war has been going on forever, and I just don't see it ending at this point in time. Especially with the way the BRO has been plotting around behind everyone's back... I blame the pope! Why don't we ever see him directly anyway?

    I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

 

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