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    Wow, I really liked you theories Addenza xD I'm not completely willing, yet, to believe that Allen has the heart, but when you put it like that, it actually makes a little sense. I mean, the way Allen's arm looks like it was taken out of a freak show (no offence Allen), makes it seem like the innocence didn't attach to his body so easily. So, maybe, like you said, it was forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by addenza View Post
    Here's my theory:

    1. The owner of the Heart has created a duplicate of the Heart and set it loose in the world to avoid detection by both the Order and the Earl. (Well, literally. You know what I mean, right?) The reason s/he wants to do that is probably because the Earl is well, evil and there's probably something else about the inner workings of the Vatican and the owner of the Heart doesn't want to land the Heart into either side's hands.

    2. The Black Order/Hevlaska doesn't know anything about the Heart except that once it's destroyed, all the other innocence fragments will disintegrate. So even if Hevlaska has come into contact with the Heart, she might not know it herself. If the Heart is so noticable, it would have already been taken by either side long ago. The Earl seems to know something else about the Heart. Remember that he said if the owner of the Heart knew about the true purpose of the akuma, it would not be good for him/his side? So the Heart probably has some other powers which the Black Order doesn't know of.

    3. What if the Heart has the power to erase the memory of its conformer? So it's something like the Heart manipulating the memories of its conformer. Perhaps the owner is already in the Black Order, but s/he themselves don't know about it and thus can't reveal that they have the Heart.

    4. The special case of Lenalee's innocence moving to protect her when she was fighting Eshi was because her feelings resonated with her innocence, and she even would sacrifice her own life using maximum invocation to kill Eshi in order to protect her friends so it wanted to protect her (the will of the innocence).

    5. For Allen, I'm not too sure, but I'm thinking it's something along those lines too, using maximum invocation to save Suman. (I still think that Allen's innocence is more spectacular, mending the hole in his heart.) I can't figure out how Allen's innocence would not disappear when it was disintegrated to particles, though. So I'm going with the theory that Allen has the Heart. After all, the Heart can't be destroyed so easily, right? If not, the innocence-wielders would be at a great disadvantage. Besides, did you guys notice that Allen's innocence hand looks like the innocence was forcibly pushed into his hand? As in, before he upgraded to Crown Clown. The previous fourteenth might have found the Heart and forced it into his hands while he transferred his memories into Allen. Remember that in the current arc, Timothy's father had force-fed him the innocence and it actually conformed to him too? So I'm thinking it's something like that.

    Yeah, sorry for the long-winded analysis. ><
    EDIT: My post was too long and it's taking a long time to get posted. -_-
    I just wanted to add one more point about why I think Allen has the Heart:
    When Lenalee was sinking in the ocean during the fight with Eshi, she called out to him, and he somehow saw her (for like, a few seconds). I was wondering if this meant that Lenalee and Allen had some special telepathic abilites or something, but when the zombie arc came out, it really made me think that Allen has the Heart. Cause remember that time Krory woke up and called out to Allen too? Allen saw Krory! Okay, so it was a little different from the reality, but Allen saw him, though it was when he was unconscious. If this thing happens to everyone else, why didn't Lavi or Komui see Lenalee when she was calling out to them? And why didn't Lavi see Krory when he was calling out to them? So I think that Allen has the Heart, and Lenalee's innocence is a decoy.

    @Trinny: Yay! I've convinced someone of my theories! XD

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    yay that makes sense....
    but i also have a new theorie:
    what if all innoence are one? then just destorying a part of a cake wouldnt change much, but if every single of them disappeard it would be fatal
    dont know why i think its like that, just came in my mind when i read what addenza has wirtten.
    Wings take the shape of people's feelings.
    Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once.
    But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end,
    it only flickers for a brief moment in time.

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    Ooh, if that's the case I wish the Earl and the Noahs good luck in wiping out the innocence. XD It kind of makes sense to me, but I just wondered why Allen's innocence didn't disappear when it was shattered while the other shattered innocence fragments all did... ><

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    i think that will be a mistery forever...^^"
    Wings take the shape of people's feelings.
    Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once.
    But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end,
    it only flickers for a brief moment in time.

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    I think it could be Lenalee. I also think it could be Lavi (it would be a nice twist). But wouldn't it be weird if it was Kanda or something? Maybe even Miranda, I'm thinking of the least likely people. Maybe Allen?

    I really have no clue, could be anyone. But I think its going to either be Lenalee or Kanda that has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    yay that makes sense....
    but i also have a new theorie:
    what if all innoence are one? then just destorying a part of a cake wouldnt change much, but if every single of them disappeard it would be fatal
    dont know why i think its like that, just came in my mind when i read what addenza has wirtten.
    All the Innocences were once a part of one Innocence (or 'god's cube' like they called it) before they separated. If all the Innocences together make up 'the heart', then there is no heart. Most likely, only one innocence can be the heart, unless 'the heart' is a delusion. Who knows, maybe there is no heart at all xP
    Last edited by Trinny; 02-03-2009 at 03:35 AM.
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    Hmm, that's possible too. Like the existence of the "Heart" was to give hope to the Order and Vatican and to try and cheat the Earl so that he'll be running around looking for the Heart to destroy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mai View Post
    I think it could be Lenalee. I also think it could be Lavi (it would be a nice twist). But wouldn't it be weird if it was Kanda or something? Maybe even Miranda, I'm thinking of the least likely people. Maybe Allen?

    I really have no clue, could be anyone. But I think its going to either be Lenalee or Kanda that has it.
    LMAO it would be kind of funny if it was Kanda. Lenalee is really sweet and caring, so she looks as if she's most likely to have the Heart. If it was somebody cold and angry like Kanda, that would be really ironic.

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    Actually, I don't think that the Heart chooses its conformer by their character? It's just like any other innocence fragment, except that it has the power to wipe out all the other innocence fragments if it were destroyed. And since innocence can choose someone like Kanda (not caring and all that, but really focused on his work), then the Heart can choose someone selfish or something like that too...

 

 

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