Tyki and Neah

**OujoYunie** · 01-06-2012, 04:27 PM

Hello fans. I apologize for not reading the facts beforehand and/or being a less intelligent being but I had a theory, which is probably old and might have already been posted/discussed but I didn't find it and in any case thought it would be good if someone were to enlighten me.

Well then, what if Tyki is Neah's son?

I don't know if it was stated anywhere whether or not Neah, or Mana, had families (you know, wife, kids). If Neah had a child some 30 years ago, prior his death, this could be Tyki, who, if I read the right stuff somewhere, doesn't have memories of his childhood. (Hell, Road could be his mom or something, would explain things). We don't know Tyki's exact age, but we know he's somewhere between 25-30, right? Could work. Lots of things would make sense. Anyway, I believe I've embarrassed myself enough already (best first post ever?).

(Can Noah reproduce?)

I can't say I know every little detail in the manga and I'm not much of a thinker anyway, so please tell me all my errors. Aaand discuss. ♥

**kalla** · 01-06-2012, 10:21 PM

I thought Tykki is Sheril's brother and Road's uncle? Maybe I'm mistaken.

I believe Road is Sheril's daughter with a human mother, but again I may have misread something.

**Skittlez** · 01-07-2012, 12:09 AM

I thought that it said that Road is Sheril's adopted daughter, Tyki is the adopted brother/Road's uncle, and the Millinium Earl adopted Tyki? I'm probably mistaken, but... I don't think that any of the Noah's genetic family members have been revealed.
Also, according to the manga on chapter 187 page 10, Tyki was the 3rd "disciple", making him the third Noah to appear. Road is the 9th noah, while Neah was the 14th, which would make it impossible for them to be Tyki's parents, seeing as they're younger than him.
Did Neah ever kill Road along with the other Noah? I think I read that only the Millinium Earl and Road survived... But I don't know if I actually read it, or if I'm making it up out of nowhere.

**OujoYunie** · 01-07-2012, 02:59 AM

Indeed, no blood relatives have been revealed so far, which could indicate that the Noah can't reproduce, but eh. Can't be proved or disproved at this point.

When Neah tried to kill the Earl, it doesn't matter which Noah were there because the bodies don't have to be Tyki-tachi? Somewhere I read (could very well be false information) that Tyki joined the Earl some 10 years ago, when the Noah in his was awaken, and doesn't remember anything from before that. How old his Noah is doesn't relate to how old Tyki as a human is. Right?

**kalla** · 01-07-2012, 05:58 AM

I believe you are right about the age, yes. Road's physical age doesn't line up with her being older than a lot of the other Noah...if I'm understanding your question.

And yes, Road is the adopted daughter of Sheril so thank you I couldn't remember exactly and couldn't look it up at the time. Everything I found stated Tykki is his actual brother however...which would explain their similar appearance and Noah designations or whatever you want to call them (Pleasure and Desire). And Nea had a biological brother, Mana so blood relatives have been revealed, just not many and they are shrouded in mystery.

Regarding reproducing...why couldn't they? They are in a human body. As far as we have seen nothing really points to it being impossible or that the bodies go through some huge transformation. The stigmata appear and their skin darkens, but they appear the same otherwise. I thought at one point Road told Allen that the Noah were the first and only true humans, that everyone had Noah genes but most never awakened and stayed weak, justifying her hatred of others...which to me implies they physiologically are not drastically different. I think it would be a safer assumption to say that they become uninterested in reproducing in a human body because of how they view "humans."

Now, if you are meaning the Noah reproduce to create another Noah then I would be inclined to say it appeared not possible at this point as every Noah "born" was from the Noah genes being activated in his/her DNA, not from an actual birth. But we know so little about that process it's hard to tell.

**OujoYunie** · 01-07-2012, 07:49 AM

You're right, as far as official goes Sheryl and Tyki do seem to be blood related. Weird, I never thought they were (maybe because of the names? What's the official name anyway, Sheryl or Cyril?). Oh well. I guess that's about as far we go with this theory then.

As for reproduction, I never excluded it. I think the same way you do, that they're just not interested in that. It's just that we don't have any solid information on this, so we can't know for sure.
Also, again, with you on the whole Noah doesn't equal Noah offspring thing.

**Freakanzoy** · 01-07-2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by OujoYunie

You're right, as far as official goes Sheryl and Tyki do seem to be blood related. Weird, I never thought they were (maybe because of the names?

I believe one of the theories about their different last names is that Tyki is a lord of a place and gets his name (Mikk) from this.
I don't know where that comes from, I first thought it was from chapter 158 where Tyki is first seen with his long hair going to a ball and greeted by a woman.
But after checking she doesn't actually call him Lord Mikk, just Mikk.

**Freakanzoy** · 01-10-2012, 03:19 AM

Actually, to come back on that; in the manga the woman just calls him Mikk but in the anime (final episode) the subtitles say Lord Mikk

I'm not sure if it fits within this topic as it's about Tyki and Neah, but I found it weird that Road seems to be a 16-year-old girl when impersonating a human.
It was stated that she and the Earl were the only ones not to be killed by Neah 35 years ago.

So, why hasn't she aged? Is it her using her Dream ability to create an image of herself to her liking?
Tricia is her biological mother and though sickly, I think she'd notice giving birth to a teenager rather than a baby.

As for what Skittlez said about the numbering, I don't think that has something to do with the order in which the Noah reappear each generation but perhaps to what the original Noah were numbered as. Thus 3 is always Joyde and so on.
For example, Skin Bolic was visited by the Earl and Road when he first transformed into a Noah and was named the 8th apostle while Road is the 9th.

**OujoYunie** · 01-10-2012, 10:37 AM

That's a good point, about Road. We always assumed she's much older than she looks, so her appearance of a child is not her actual appearance, but her mom really should have noticed. She doesn't know about the Noah, as far as we know. But then still Road is a human, if she's older than 30/35+15/16, her mom should be uh, older. Tricia doesn't seem to be that old. Hmmm. What's going on here really?