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Mina · 01-24-2009, 05:41 PM

allen is an exorcist, a parasitc-type, he was born with the innocence, the 14th is/was a noah, and only the innocence can kill a noah,
so how come the 14th choose allen, who would become an exorsist because of his innocence?
i know he treid to kill the earl and still wants to using allen,
i'm asking you to tell me your theories....please^^

oro_komui · 01-26-2009, 09:04 AM

really,I can't imagine what the 14th is up to, but the fact that he is a fallen Noah means that he is no longer in Earl's side, right?
Also, isn't it very high likely that the 14th is Mana?

Mina · 01-26-2009, 10:42 AM

read the manga^^ mana and the 14th are brothers

addenza · 01-28-2009, 05:24 AM

The 14th probably wants to make use of Allen to kill the Earl, and stop his plans which would destroy humanity cause he loves humans? Well, something along those lines, anyway.

Mina · 01-29-2009, 08:57 AM

i still think its kind of confusing.... cross said that the 14th choose whoever was nearby, and that was allen, why was allen there....? wah what if the 14th is allens true father??!! then that would make sense that allen was nearby.... (WAAAAAHHHHH WTF AM I THINKING???!!!)

addenza · 01-30-2009, 06:40 AM

Hmm, maybe Mana and the 14th were on the run and Allen just happened to be somewhere nearby? Like in an isolated place or something.

Remorse · 01-30-2009, 10:17 AM

It was just destiny I guess. They were on the run and they were in disguise. They bumped Allen, luckily, brought him in and, sadly, used him.

Trinyte · 01-30-2009, 01:46 PM

Yeah... As much as I'd love to think that there's some deep reason behind why he chose Allen, I think it most likely was purely by chance, just in the same way as why the Earl didn't kill Allen that night.
None the less, I'm curious, because Mana was the 14th's brother, we he a Noah as well? If so it's pretty ironic that someone (allen) tried to turn him into an Akuma... but still, that also brings a whole new question in to play: how the hell did Mana curse Allen and aside from his eye, what are the other implications of that curse? (not all has been made totally clear about that...)
Ah! So many questions...

Mina · 01-30-2009, 03:21 PM

ok... how the hell did mana curse allen?!
i think the curse has to do something with the 14th, remember when allen was in the musicians room? his curse had some strange form, but i think it was pretty...
somehow i dont want to belive that all this happened by chance.... in the manga when mana and allen first met, mana thought "so you are also allens friend" or something like that.... maybe mana just get near allen because he knew his brother was within him? waaaah! but cross said he could have forgotten everything....I'M SORRY I MAKE EVERYTHING EVEN MORE COMPLICATED!

addenza · 02-01-2009, 08:31 AM

Maybe by slashing Allen's left eye with his akuma hand, Mana had somehow inserted a portion of the dark matter into Allen. It's like a visible sign of the dark matter in Allen. Actually, here I'm assuming that dark matter = Noah (though I know that it's not the same, but since both can be destroyed by innocence, I'm just going to lump them as one). So if Allen didn't have that scar, he would still possess the memories of the fourteenth. When he plays the piano, it's as if he's activating the dark matter within himself, so the scar is affected by the Noah genes thing and changes shape.

Never mind if you don't understand. By now, even I can't understand what I'm trying to say. ><

01-24-2009, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: germany Age: 15 Posts: 106	what is the 14th up to allen is an exorcist, a parasitc-type, he was born with the innocence, the 14th is/was a noah, and only the innocence can kill a noah, so how come the 14th choose allen, who would become an exorsist because of his innocence? i know he treid to kill the earl and still wants to using allen, i'm asking you to tell me your theories....please^^ __________________ Wings take the shape of people's feelings. Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once. But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end, it only flickers for a brief moment in time.

01-26-2009, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: germany Age: 15 Posts: 106	read the manga^^ mana and the 14th are brothers __________________ Wings take the shape of people's feelings. Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once. But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end, it only flickers for a brief moment in time.

01-29-2009, 08:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: germany Age: 15 Posts: 106	i still think its kind of confusing.... cross said that the 14th choose whoever was nearby, and that was allen, why was allen there....? wah what if the 14th is allens true father??!! then that would make sense that allen was nearby.... (WAAAAAHHHHH WTF AM I THINKING???!!!) __________________ Wings take the shape of people's feelings. Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once. But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end, it only flickers for a brief moment in time. Last edited by Mina; 01-30-2009 at 03:16 PM.

01-30-2009, 10:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
Remorse Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Age: 15 Posts: 305	It was just destiny I guess. They were on the run and they were in disguise. They bumped Allen, luckily, brought him in and, sadly, used him. __________________

01-30-2009, 01:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Trinyte Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Age: 19 Posts: 74	Yeah... As much as I'd love to think that there's some deep reason behind why he chose Allen, I think it most likely was purely by chance, just in the same way as why the Earl didn't kill Allen that night. None the less, I'm curious, because Mana was the 14th's brother, we he a Noah as well? If so it's pretty ironic that someone (allen) tried to turn him into an Akuma... but still, that also brings a whole new question in to play: how the hell did Mana curse Allen and aside from his eye, what are the other implications of that curse? (not all has been made totally clear about that...) Ah! So many questions... __________________ ...<< TRiNyTe >>...

01-26-2009, 09:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
oro_komui Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: greece Age: 21 Posts: 18	really,I can't imagine what the 14th is up to, but the fact that he is a fallen Noah means that he is no longer in Earl's side, right? Also, isn't it very high likely that the 14th is Mana?

01-28-2009, 05:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
addenza Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 240	The 14th probably wants to make use of Allen to kill the Earl, and stop his plans which would destroy humanity cause he loves humans? Well, something along those lines, anyway.

01-30-2009, 06:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
addenza Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 240	Hmm, maybe Mana and the 14th were on the run and Allen just happened to be somewhere nearby? Like in an isolated place or something.

01-30-2009, 03:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: germany Age: 15 Posts: 106	ok... how the hell did mana curse allen?! i think the curse has to do something with the 14th, remember when allen was in the musicians room? his curse had some strange form, but i think it was pretty... somehow i dont want to belive that all this happened by chance.... in the manga when mana and allen first met, mana thought "so you are also allens friend" or something like that.... maybe mana just get near allen because he knew his brother was within him? waaaah! but cross said he could have forgotten everything....I'M SORRY I MAKE EVERYTHING EVEN MORE COMPLICATED! __________________ Wings take the shape of people's feelings. Even if one were to lose everything, it dosen't all disappear at once. But that also means that, just like the light of a candle burning to the very end, it only flickers for a brief moment in time.

02-01-2009, 08:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
addenza Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 240	Maybe by slashing Allen's left eye with his akuma hand, Mana had somehow inserted a portion of the dark matter into Allen. It's like a visible sign of the dark matter in Allen. Actually, here I'm assuming that dark matter = Noah (though I know that it's not the same, but since both can be destroyed by innocence, I'm just going to lump them as one). So if Allen didn't have that scar, he would still possess the memories of the fourteenth. When he plays the piano, it's as if he's activating the dark matter within himself, so the scar is affected by the Noah genes thing and changes shape. Never mind if you don't understand. By now, even I can't understand what I'm trying to say. ><

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