Who is the Heart?

[shonen]

Just wanted to see where the general concensus was on this topic.

Who do you think it is?

"Unknown" means that you don't believe the possesor fo the heart has been introduced yet. Sorry if that was confusing.

[Noir XIV]

Allen. This is how I think: Allen is like God, a judge. Almost one, at least. Assuming that he has the power of a superior Noah and an evolving Innocence that has a mind of its own (not Apocryphos, I'm referring to Allen's Innocence).

[Rhode]

erm, why are we saying 'who' is the heart? I just realised how conversation was changing from 'which innocence is the heart', then 'who has the innocence that is the heart', and is now - 'who is the heart'?

We dont know that the Heart IS innocence, although we know that the heart's destruction will be the end of all innocence. Could it be a person, an innocence, a copatable, something like the Appocrapper, or the earth itself?

ahh, for now I've voted Unknown.

[Sinamon]

erm, why are we saying 'who' is the heart? I just realised how conversation was changing from 'which innocence is the heart', then 'who has the innocence that is the heart', and is now - 'who is the heart'?

We dont know that the Heart IS innocence, although we know that the heart's destruction will be the end of all innocence. Could it be a person, an innocence, a copatable, something like the Appocrapper, or the earth itself?

ahh, for now I've voted Unknown.

actually, we DO know that the heart is innocence, at least it's written in canon. komui states that "the heart" IS an innocence very much like the innocence that the exorcists are currently accommodating. there is no telling, physically, the difference between "the heart" and any other innoence that is in use out there now. but the logical step that the earl is acting on is that "the heart" may be in use by one of the generals since they are the strongest among all exorcists. komui states that someone could be the accommodator for "the heart" right now and just not know it yet. so the question really should be stated as "whose innocence is 'the heart'?" the only way to debate this point is to say that whatever komui knows is just a guess but he seemed to be talking about information he got from the all-knowing cube that had all the history of the innocence and how it was used previously to defeat the earl. he was recalling his knowledge about "the heart" from the cube but he also says that the cube does not distinguish "the heart" as having any different characteristics than any other innocence, which is why an exorcist could be syncro'd to it right now but not know it yet.

but then hoshino throws us for a loop and has the apocryhpos say that "the heart" is waiting for allen at the vatican. WHAT? so there's a few possible options with that: 1.) the innocence that is "the heart" has been found by the church and is being kept safely there (unlikely), 2.) the church somehow found the exorcist that is the accommodator and he's being kept safely at the vatican (also unlikely), or 3.) the apocryphos is lying or being misleading at best. i'm more apt to believe #3. according to tyki, the apocryphos exists "solely to protect 'the heart'." that might be the case but i don't know why the protector is going around spewing information about "the heart's" location then, even if he did think he was alone. not very discreet, that one.

but, anyway, at this point we can be sure that "the heart" is indeed an innocence. so, the question should be, "whose innocence is 'the heart?'"

i'll throw my card into the hat and say that allen is most likely the accommodator for "the heart" at this point. i mean, he IS the main character and his innocence is adjusting very rapidly. he has also reached 100% syncro rate; a feat that only generals supposedly can do. could this be the reason why the 14th chose HIM as his host? with the power of "the heart," neah could finally defeat the earl and fulfill the prophecy. and if neah could destroy the earl once and for all...there's no need for the existence of innocence either and in the end, he could destroy everything - the earl, the heart - without one, the other does not need to exist. a part of me wishes this to be so...then our young exorcists could actually live as they should...like normal teenagers/young adults.

[Rhode]

I think I mentioned this earlier, but the Heart has to be the innocence that none of us suspects. For that reason, it could easily be Allen as it's the most obvious [but unlikely because it's obvious] person to be.

Still, if Allen's the heart (or Crown Clown is the heart), that'd be a bit dull. Surely it'd be more interesting if the heart still hasnt been revealed, and is only known at the end - when it's too late for many characters to change stratagy and take advantage of it.

After the Appocrapper, I really dont think the heart is the innocence of an exorcist. It's one of the best hiding places, but I just dont think it'll happen.

[Kaien]

It's very obvious that Allen a.k.a. God's Joker was surely the accomodator of the heart but i can't fully agree that he is.. 'cause i'm bothering if the heart as the source of power of all the innocence can synchronize nor wield by the body of sinner.

So I can't vote.

[snaccccans]

It's very obvious that Allen a.k.a. God's Joker was surely the accomodator of the heart but i can't fully agree that he is.. 'cause i'm bothering if the heart as the source of power of all the innocence can synchronize nor wield by the body of sinner.

So I can't vote.

I'm with you on Allen's case.. XD

For the "sinner" part, why Allen can wield an innocence in the first place? Lol.. XP

Well, I want to believe that Allen has it (well, part of it) considering the fact that neah is a part of him. Like what Sinamon said, neah would be able to fulfill the prophecy using the heart. Isn't it easier for him to "take revenge" on Earl using the Heart? If so, would you considering placing the heart near you for easy reach or place on somewhere far from reach? In my opinion, easy + far at the same time.

You might ask how or why? Well maybe Allen has half of the heart? Considering the fact of "unbelivable innocence behaviour" like Apocryphos (or whatever it is called) as well as the importance of the Heart (once it destroyed so does the remaining innocence). It may be too powerful for a host to contain/control the Heart, thus might be splitting into 2. One of it is in Allen, while the other is in somewhere else? (Maybe Apocryphos?) Clearly there isn't enough clues for us to determine who/what/where is the Heart.

For now, I agree with Rhode of having some unexpected person possessing the Heart. That would really spice up the manga.
Initially I wanted to vote for Others, but dont know what does it represent (is it a combination of 2 or more characters possessing the Heart? Or simply refer to others like Panda[Bookman] and Miranda?) so I voted for Allen. XD

[Sinamon]

i know i've already voted on who has the "heart" (allen) and that is my objective opinion. but if i were to be asked for my very biased and subjective opinion, i would want allen and lenalee to be the halves that make the heart whole and complete. :-)

i know, i know...it's super cheesy but i can't help it. it's not only because i ship them but also because those were the two shown with the most changes and surprises in terms of their respective innocence's actions and reactions. and they both work so well together as a team. it's just wishful thinking but in my ideal world, yeah, those two would come together as "the heart." ahhhhhhh <3<3<3<3<3<3<3

/cue barfing

[Kaien]

hmm..guys pardon me if i'm ruining you but if the heart was really splitted into two or maybe more than that how it can be the source of the power of all innocence?

if it's splitted it means that the heart haven't give its full potential as the source of all power and only when the heart's pieces were reunited, the potential will go to the maximum and it also make all innocence to have new power.

in the other hand if the heart was a whole fragment as itself and not splitted, it becomes easy to say that the heart was really the source and its have a far unbelievable power than other innocence to defeat the noahs.

but still who would be the wielder?

If Allen can find a way to excorcise the fourthteenth from himself before he acquire the heart..it would be a relieve. If there's no way.. yay~ then who? :3

[Serene]

Wait ppl! Don't forget that Allen's Innocence was technically broken once... but then, would that count? o.0
I'm also very unsure who would be this almighty person with the Heart. But I believe it might not be a General >.> For now, I will not vote.