Who is the Heart?

[anime lover]

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i think that the heart might be something else
but, what if somewhere, in the end or middle,
the heart accepts Allen as its wielder/owner?
and when cross said u might have to kill the one you love when your the 14th or something like that
he said "might"
so it "might" not come true
or, what if the heart was all innocence together?

[Slay CLay]

Personally, I think that the Heart is Allen, don't shot me I got a few reasons to back it up.

Although making the main character the most powerful character in the whole series is so obvious, it is just too obvious and some people might not even consider it. And now we know that Lenalee and Kanda are crystal types so that rules them out of the race and Lavi might turn into one as well (unless Hoshino decides to screw us and it turns out to be one of them). So how can Allen become a crystal type, his innocnce is attached to his arm? Will there be a new way for all parasite types to evolve?

But even with the new way of evolving, Allen is still different because he carries the 14th memories. How come he didn't turn into a fallen one? Suman Dark was a fallen one just because he gave information to the Noah and his innocence didn't like that, and yet Allen hosts a hostile enemy against all innocents.

Another thing to take into consideration could be the name of the title. Hoshino did say that the "D" is just another way of saying "the" so I thought that "The Gray Man" would apply to Allen as not only the carrier of the Noah genes and innocents, but also having the title of The Millenium Earl (since Neah did say he wanted to be the Earl) and the Heart. Thus, creating the D Gray Man title...or something like that.

There is a lot of reasons why Allen could not be the Heart, but I think that it's either him or someone else (I hope it's Allen TT_TT)

[kalla]

I think the reason Allen isn't a fallen one is because he hasn't betrayed the innocence. Depending on the true "intentions" of the innocence, leaving the Order or having Nea's memories inside him wouldn't necessarily betray the innocence's goals. It also may be one of the things keeping Nea from taking completely over, but I personally believe Nea has other reasons.

Another thing to think about regarding Allen...he has already evolved his innocence like Lenalee and Kanda. He made his pact when his innocence was dissolved and he was trying to get it back at the Asian Branch. It is entirely possible that his innocence is on par with the crystal types, but since it is already a part of him being parasitic type what we see him do to achieve that is different. Both in Lenalee and Allen's case they made comments about being more in tune or synchronized with the innocence. For all three, Allen Lenalee and Kanda, they had been somehow separated from the innocence and then came back to retrieve it.

I'm not saying Allen isn't the heart or that he is, I just don't think that having a crystal type innocence makes it impossible to be the Heart either.

[Melixa]

With what anime lover said about Marian Cross saying that Allen 'might' have to kill someone when he becomes the 14th is wrong, he doesn't say might at all he says 'What if I told you you'll have to kill someone you love, when you become the 14th.

D.Gray-Man 167 - Read D.Gray-Man 167 Online - Page 12

With the being said I agree with one of kalla's earlier post saying that he might have to destroy his memory of Mana to be free of Neah. Also I agree with kalla with becoming fallen, but another solution could be that Neah might not be an enemy of the innocence whereas the other Noah are. And Suman became a fallen because he didn't fight against the Noah and betrayed the innocence.

And I also think that crystal types are not ruled out of being the heart, but I still do not think that Kanda or Lenalee could be the heart.

[elie1234]

I think either Allen or Leenalee holds the heart. Eh, Leenalee due to its crystal thing protecting her and the fact that she's a female (usually in shounen manga, it just somehow goes that way?)

Allen due to the fact that he's special?
- He was born WITH the innocence
- The innocence saved him and had a will of its own (like it forces Allen to fight even though he's badly injured)
- The fact that the Earl said that the Heart will create dummies to protect itself, judging from the timeline, Allen's innocence saved him 1st, before Leenalee's innocence displayed that weird ability. So maybe Leenalee's innocence was influenced to be a dummy? Though it can be the other way round, defying the timeline.
- Last but not the least, the Cardinal/ Apocyphos ?? guy said that "The Heart was worried about you(ALLEN)", according to what we know, the Heart is an innocence and that guy is the guardian for it. Noah cant really co-exist with innocence since they are each other's weakness (maybe>.>"). Allen was tortured badly, received shocks abt his identity and etc, so I'm thinking maybe Allen's innocence(the Heart) was worried abt Allen's mental and physical health? That's why that Apocyphos guy wanted to prevent the awakening of 14th?

Butbut!! for the last point, if it absorbs Allen and the innocence, doesnt it kind of defeats the purpose of having the Heart? so maybe Allen's innocence is not the heart?

Gosh! Im getting more confused the more I write><" The part where Apocyphos said that Allen has grown up to be a beautiful exorcist and the part where Cross said that "when we first met, he didnt call himself <Allen>" and that it was a mistake for not noticing it. what was he referring to?

Sorry, I know the last para was not supposed to be here, but i just.... T,T"

[dragongirl18]

For some reason I think this is gonna be a thing where "Everyone is the heart" or something like that. Where they all put their innocence together or something. *is shot for Wild Mass Guessing*

...XD I hope it's just Allen though. Love that guy (^^)v

[Heart]

the part where Cross said that "when we first met, he didnt call himself <Allen>" and that it was a mistake for not noticing it. what was he referring to?

we sort of thought that cross was talking about the fact Allen called himself 'Red' (or as I've been told), but my instincts tell me that the real reason why he said what he did is on a deeper level than just the mere name 'Red'. Maybe (just a thought) Red and Allen are two different people? OM Gosh if that was true it would make SO MUCH SENSE! The heart is supposed to make a dummy right? what if 'Allen' is the dummy for the heart which is 'Red'? O.O my brain has exploded from the epic possibilities this might bring forward...

[Mikki Walker]

Maybe (just a thought) Red and Allen are two different people? OM Gosh if that was true it would make SO MUCH SENSE! The heart is supposed to make a dummy right? what if 'Allen' is the dummy for the heart which is 'Red'?

*Mind explodes* That could explain Neah's 'you too are a heartless puppet' line! Allen did have a major personality switch after the whole Mana incident. He talked like Mana and was the exact opposite of how he used to be. But now Allen's kinda morphing back to being how he was...maybe 'Allen' and 'Red' are becoming ONE PERSON!
...Yep, time for bed when this makes sense...

[Vortex]

Sorry, haven't read in a while.... But who's Red?

[Skittlez]

^-^ Red was Allen's name before Mana went crazy and started calling Allen his current name... Allen used to be the name of Mana's dog whom befriended Red. Shortly after Allen the dog died, Mana went crazy and started calling Red Allen. :P to find out about all of this story since it's confusing to explain, you should read D.Gray-Man reverse novel three o.o
Basically, it was what everyone called little Allen because of his red left arm and red hair ;-;